CLAUDIA RANKINE AND JUDITH BUTLER IN CONVERSATION

On my way to retrieve my coat I’m paused in the hallway in someone else’s home when a man approaches to tell me he thinks his greatest privilege is his height. There’s a politics around who is tallest, and right now he’s passively blocking passage, so yes. But greatest, no. Predictably, I say, I think your whiteness is your greatest privilege. To this, he pivots and reports that, unlike other whites who have confessed to him they are scared of Blacks, he is comfortable around Black people because he played basketball. He doesn’t say with Black men because that’s implied. For no good reason, except perhaps inside the inane logic of if you like something so much, you might as well marry it, I ask him, are you married to a Black woman? What? He says, no, she’s Jewish. After a pause, he adds, she’s white. I don’t ask him about his closest friends, his colleagues, his neighbors, his wife’s friends, his institutions, our institutions, structural racism, unconscious bias — I just decide, since nothing keeps happening, no new social interaction, no new utterances from me or him, both of us in default fantasies, I just decide to stop tilting my head to look up.

I have again reached the end of waiting. What is it the theorist Saidiya Hartman said? “Educating white people about racism has failed.” Or, was it that “hallways are liminal zones where we shouldn’t fail to see what’s possible.” Either way, and still, all the way home, the tall man’s image stands before me, ineluctable. And then the Hartman quote I was searching for arrives: “One of the things I think is true, which is a way of thinking about the afterlife of slavery in regard to how we inhabit historical time, is the sense of temporal entanglement, where the past, the present and the future, are not discrete and cut off from one another, but rather that we live the simultaneity of that entanglement. This is almost common sense to Black folk. How does one narrate that?” Her question is the hoop that encircles. Claudia Rankine, from Just Us: An American Conversation*

This week join Rankine and Judith Butler—author of The Force of Nonviolence—in conversation.

This online event is presented by the New Museum’s Stuart Regen Visionaries Series program. See link below for details.

CLAUDIA RANKINE and JUDITH BUTLER IN CONVERSATION

New Museum

Thursday, October 29.

4 pm on the West Coast; 7 pm East Coast.

*Claudia Rankine, Just Us: An American Conversation (Minneapolis: Graywolf Press, 2020). © Claudia Rankine.

From top: Claudia Rankine, photograph courtesy of Blue Flower Arts; Claudia Rankine, Just Us: An American Conversation (2020) cover image courtesy and © Graywolf Press; Judith Butler, The Force of Nonviolence (2020) cover image courtesy and © Verso; Judith Butler, courtesy of the photographer and the author.

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